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	<title>Comments on: Rob Baran or Robber Baron? (part 1.)</title>
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	<description>Pushing a shopping cart full of bricks to PPG...in blog form, because Rome wasn't burned in a day</description>
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		<title>By: C.</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see, I see.  But really? To stoop to their level?  There IS no bonus, true enough, but isn't the bonus in your heart?  Or is it just me?  

Just because your dealing with an asshole doesn't mean you need to tape asscheeks to your head, ya know?  I don't agree with everything they said, but I do sympathize generally.  

That being said, I forgot it is saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see, I see.  But really? To stoop to their level?  There IS no bonus, true enough, but isn&#8217;t the bonus in your heart?  Or is it just me?  </p>
<p>Just because your dealing with an asshole doesn&#8217;t mean you need to tape asscheeks to your head, ya know?  I don&#8217;t agree with everything they said, but I do sympathize generally.  </p>
<p>That being said, I forgot it is saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: yinsurgent</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>yinsurgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C,

They came along and made their unfounded accusations, and I responded in kind, with unfounded accustaions. I'm not looking to change their mind, or win their approval.
There's no bonus for being the anonymous 'better person' on the internet.
I agree with you that activism as it stands, is a waste of time, but that's not the only option.
Hannity's on Saturdays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C,</p>
<p>They came along and made their unfounded accusations, and I responded in kind, with unfounded accustaions. I&#8217;m not looking to change their mind, or win their approval.<br />
There&#8217;s no bonus for being the anonymous &#8216;better person&#8217; on the internet.<br />
I agree with you that activism as it stands, is a waste of time, but that&#8217;s not the only option.<br />
Hannity&#8217;s on Saturdays?</p>
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		<title>By: C.</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that I sympathize with 'real world' a little.  

I don't understand this knee jerk gerneralizing reaction to their  post.  What was said seems to me no different then when conservatives generalize about yinz guys.  I mean unless you really know this person, what good is it to assume they come from a position of 'wealth and power'?  Why not talk about what they said, not what you speculate their background to be?  

As for myself, when I decided not to support these activities anylonger, I simply sat down and asked myself what I valued more: Freedom or equality.  Is freedom the same as equality.  I decided for freedom.  

I thought I'd have to wait till 3 to hear Hannity.  As it turns out, I can just look to the comments on this fine blog.  

Regards, 
C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I sympathize with &#8216;real world&#8217; a little.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand this knee jerk gerneralizing reaction to their  post.  What was said seems to me no different then when conservatives generalize about yinz guys.  I mean unless you really know this person, what good is it to assume they come from a position of &#8216;wealth and power&#8217;?  Why not talk about what they said, not what you speculate their background to be?  </p>
<p>As for myself, when I decided not to support these activities anylonger, I simply sat down and asked myself what I valued more: Freedom or equality.  Is freedom the same as equality.  I decided for freedom.  </p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d have to wait till 3 to hear Hannity.  As it turns out, I can just look to the comments on this fine blog.  </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
C.</p>
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		<title>By: yinsurgent</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>yinsurgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want a photo credit, 'tis yours. Just email the name you want it credited to, no questions asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want a photo credit, &#8217;tis yours. Just email the name you want it credited to, no questions asked.</p>
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		<title>By: PD can be funny</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>PD can be funny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I get a photo credit for that sharp shot of shocking graffiti?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I get a photo credit for that sharp shot of shocking graffiti?</p>
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		<title>By: yinsurgent</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>yinsurgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blacklines, right you are. thanks for tightening up my lazy use of the language and keeping me honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blacklines, right you are. thanks for tightening up my lazy use of the language and keeping me honest.</p>
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		<title>By: blacklines</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>blacklines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Your tale isn’t unique, though. Think of all the self-described “60’s radicals” who eventually quit slumming, and returned to their positions of privilege and wealth."

I find it important to point out to you that you can never leave your position of privilege in our society.  You can shun it, you can decry it, you can even disown the people who handed it down to you, but it is always there, defacto.  The only thing you CAN do is to try and undermine the system that enables it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your tale isn’t unique, though. Think of all the self-described “60’s radicals” who eventually quit slumming, and returned to their positions of privilege and wealth.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find it important to point out to you that you can never leave your position of privilege in our society.  You can shun it, you can decry it, you can even disown the people who handed it down to you, but it is always there, defacto.  The only thing you CAN do is to try and undermine the system that enables it.</p>
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		<title>By: yinsurgent</title>
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		<dc:creator>yinsurgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By "Real World" do you mean the MTV show, or do you mean doing what Doctor Daddy wanted, little one?
Your tale isn't unique, though. Think of all the self-described "60's radicals" who eventually quit slumming, and returned to their positions of privilege and wealth. It's interesting too, that since you had a flirtation with radical politics, which you "outgrew", you assume anyone who wants abetter world for themselves and their children is just someone else briefly playacting at being a "rebel" like you did, before taking over the family business or spending mommy and daddy's money on an urban gallery for your art hobby.
Thanks for dropping by and giving the generic "fortunate son or daughter" paragraph, though. I thought I'd have to wait until tomorrow to hear Sean Hannity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;Real World&#8221; do you mean the MTV show, or do you mean doing what Doctor Daddy wanted, little one?<br />
Your tale isn&#8217;t unique, though. Think of all the self-described &#8220;60&#8217;s radicals&#8221; who eventually quit slumming, and returned to their positions of privilege and wealth. It&#8217;s interesting too, that since you had a flirtation with radical politics, which you &#8220;outgrew&#8221;, you assume anyone who wants abetter world for themselves and their children is just someone else briefly playacting at being a &#8220;rebel&#8221; like you did, before taking over the family business or spending mommy and daddy&#8217;s money on an urban gallery for your art hobby.<br />
Thanks for dropping by and giving the generic &#8220;fortunate son or daughter&#8221; paragraph, though. I thought I&#8217;d have to wait until tomorrow to hear Sean Hannity.</p>
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		<title>By: Real World - Pittsburgh</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Real World - Pittsburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that famous graffiti from the Seattle protest eight years ago:   

"We Are Winning."    

Probably not because most of you were still playing with Power Rangers.

Well, I believed it.  I thought that the thousands of anarchists nationwide could tear down society and change it.   Then I opened eyes to the real world.   

Pop that anarchy bubble and take a breath of reality.  It isn't awesome, but you'll stop wasting your time tossing bricks, writing communiques, and bitching about every possible unjust thing in the world.

It isn't a game.   You're not winning or losing.  You are just kinda there and the average person doesn't even acknowledge that you exist.  You can have your beliefs and that is great, but you don't have to try and force them down people's throats and act like the vanguard for those poor people that can't fend for themselves.   Just try living in your anarchist fantasy land without disturbing the rest of us.   I'm sorry that you were picked on in junior high, but Dungeons and Dragons role players seem to live their fantasy lives without bothering the real world.    Maybe this way you'll have enough time to take a shower instead of annoying people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that famous graffiti from the Seattle protest eight years ago:   </p>
<p>&#8220;We Are Winning.&#8221;    </p>
<p>Probably not because most of you were still playing with Power Rangers.</p>
<p>Well, I believed it.  I thought that the thousands of anarchists nationwide could tear down society and change it.   Then I opened eyes to the real world.   </p>
<p>Pop that anarchy bubble and take a breath of reality.  It isn&#8217;t awesome, but you&#8217;ll stop wasting your time tossing bricks, writing communiques, and bitching about every possible unjust thing in the world.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t a game.   You&#8217;re not winning or losing.  You are just kinda there and the average person doesn&#8217;t even acknowledge that you exist.  You can have your beliefs and that is great, but you don&#8217;t have to try and force them down people&#8217;s throats and act like the vanguard for those poor people that can&#8217;t fend for themselves.   Just try living in your anarchist fantasy land without disturbing the rest of us.   I&#8217;m sorry that you were picked on in junior high, but Dungeons and Dragons role players seem to live their fantasy lives without bothering the real world.    Maybe this way you&#8217;ll have enough time to take a shower instead of annoying people.</p>
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		<title>By: Withold Birquest</title>
		<link>http://yinsurgent.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/rob-baran-or-robber-baron/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Withold Birquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  The Rochdale folks may have not mentioned labor explicitly because they thought true co-ops would be formed by working class people in the face of the company store, not by Deadhead yuppie opportunists, looking to pull-in 60K/yr. as managers.  Was told Rochdalers were blacklisted striking workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  The Rochdale folks may have not mentioned labor explicitly because they thought true co-ops would be formed by working class people in the face of the company store, not by Deadhead yuppie opportunists, looking to pull-in 60K/yr. as managers.  Was told Rochdalers were blacklisted striking workers.</p>
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